Juan Manuel Marquez Vs Joel Casamayor..

I dont like Casamayor so im going for manuel marquez wat about you..
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I'll be pulling for Marquez also. For years I've been trying to convince anyone that would listen that Marquez is one of the greatest technical fighters of all-time. Despite the losses his record indicates, I've never seen anyone really beat the guy.

I thought he was robbed against Freddie Norwood, Chris John, and in both Pacquiao bouts.

I can't wait for his fight against Casamayor. It's a dangerous bout because Casamayor is a tricky southpaw with a little pop and it'll be Marquez's lightweight debut.

Yeh Casmayor has skillz but i think Marquez will finish him!

EDDIE54 wrote:Yeh Casmayor has skillz but i think Marquez will finish him!

I hope you're right. However, I'm more inclined to pick Marquez via decision since no one has ever stopped Casamayor.

Thats what makes it more beter to watch ! If casamayor loses A loss and would be crushed witch i like when boxers like him get a loss!

marquez cant work southpaws, struggles against negative outboxers and can be dropped by a decent puncher

casa has all of the above

el capillo wrote:marquez cant work southpaws, struggles against negative outboxers and can be dropped by a decent puncher

casa has all of the above

IMO, he's beaten every southpaw he's faced.

What do you mean negative boxers? Did you watch his two fights with Pacquiao, a much faster and powerful fighter than Casamayor? Most people had him winning both fights despite getting dropped many times.

Casamayor looked bad against Katsidis (who was just easily beaten by Juan Diaz) before he scored the lucky KO. He also looked horrible against Santa Cruz. In fact, most people had him losing just about every round in that fight. And this was against someone that is really inferior to Juan Manuel Marquez in the skills department.

Perhaps in his prime he would've beaten JMM but next Saturday JMM will win a convincing decision.

el capillo wrote:marquez cant work southpaws, struggles against negative outboxers and can be dropped by a decent puncher

casa has all of the above

Marquez can't work southpaws, eh? Marquez TKO 11.

YEH BABY!!

EDDIE54 wrote:YEH BABY!!

wow. marquez wins and all the sudden you are acting like hes the greatest and you have a sig of him knockin down jimrex. ive never seen this happen with you

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Barrack Obama wrote:

el capillo wrote:marquez cant work southpaws, struggles against negative outboxers and can be dropped by a decent puncher

casa has all of the above

Marquez can't work southpaws, eh? Marquez TKO 11.

yeah becuase marquez was beating him easy.....

it was an even fight in the 11
i didnt see much of marquez's face in that fight due to casa's left hand always visiting it.

it was clear he couldnt box a southpaw . he could box pac who stands very square up and is very aggresive thus you can counter him if you have the skills...which marquez does.

when i said negative boxer i mean guys who have a negative output and put more effort into defence and awkwardness and counter shots...usually on the backfoot...pac was aggresive and looked a mug in the later rounds when his momentum went.

and it was clear that if joel would of landed a simlar shot that juan wouldnt be the victor.

anyways this proves nothing. casa is shot and had looked horrible against corrales 2 years ago.

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el capillo wrote:

Barrack Obama wrote:

el capillo wrote:marquez cant work southpaws, struggles against negative outboxers and can be dropped by a decent puncher

casa has all of the above

Marquez can't work southpaws, eh? Marquez TKO 11.

yeah becuase marquez was beating him easy..... it was an even fight in the 11
i didnt see much of marquez's face in that fight due to casa's left hand always visiting it.

it was clear he couldnt box a southpaw . he could box pac who stands very square up and is very aggresive thus you can counter him if you have the skills...which marquez does.

when i said negative boxer i mean guys who have a negative output and put more effort into defence and awkwardness and counter shots...usually on the backfoot...pac was aggresive and looked a mug in the later rounds when his momentum went.

and it was clear that if joel would of landed a simlar shot that juan wouldnt be the victor.

anyways this proves nothing. casa is shot and had looked horrible against corrales 2 years ago.

No one has ever looked this great against Casa so stop trying to spin it.

Both guys fought pretty evenly but Marquez was slowly breaking him down. Even Casa said after the fight that Marquez owned him by picking off his shots.

Funny how Casa is old and shot after he got KTFO for the first time in his career, but you picked him to win this fight.

Let's not forget that Marquez is no spring chicken himself at 35 years of age. Stop acting like he's in his prime.

JMM, the natural Featherweight, should be given props for becoming the first fighter to ever put Casa away in his best division. Eat crow my man.

Barrack Obama wrote:

el capillo wrote:

Barrack Obama wrote:

el capillo wrote:marquez cant work southpaws, struggles against negative outboxers and can be dropped by a decent puncher

casa has all of the above

Marquez can't work southpaws, eh? Marquez TKO 11.

yeah becuase marquez was beating him easy..... it was an even fight in the 11
i didnt see much of marquez's face in that fight due to casa's left hand always visiting it.

it was clear he couldnt box a southpaw . he could box pac who stands very square up and is very aggresive thus you can counter him if you have the skills...which marquez does.

when i said negative boxer i mean guys who have a negative output and put more effort into defence and awkwardness and counter shots...usually on the backfoot...pac was aggresive and looked a mug in the later rounds when his momentum went.

and it was clear that if joel would of landed a simlar shot that juan wouldnt be the victor.

anyways this proves nothing. casa is shot and had looked horrible against corrales 2 years ago.

No one has ever looked this great against Casa so stop trying to spin it.

Both guys fought pretty evenly but Marquez was slowly breaking him down. Even Casa said after the fight that Marquez owned him by picking off his shots.

Funny how Casa is old and shot after he got KTFO for the first time in his career, but you picked him to win this fight.

Let's not forget that Marquez is no spring chicken himself at 35 years of age. Stop acting like he's in his prime.

JMM, the natural Featherweight, should be given props for becoming the first fighter to ever put Casa away in his best division. Eat crow my man.

agreed

yeah what he said